Mortal Giants is back — the podcast that examines the forces driving the changes taking place in the world that are markedly different than they were a century ago. In this episode Sandy Garossino and Vina Nadjibulla tackle the sharp change in U.S. politics and the new world order pushed by the Trump administration.
“Things are moving at such a speed. We all knew that President Trump was going to be disruptive. We were all worried about what that would mean for certainly Canada-U.S. relations, but also for U.S. leadership on the world stage. But I think it would be fair to say that nobody expected the velocity of change and just the sheer number of things that have been coming out of the White House by way of executive orders, by way of tweets and [Truth Social] ‘truths,’” Nadjibulla said.
Garossino wonders who will fill the void left by the Americans.
“America is vacating a global stage and China is very happy to move in there. What about Putin? What about Iran? What about North Korea? And are there other players here? They always say that in the first few months of every presidency, he is tested by enemies. What do you think that's going to look like?” Garossino asked.
Nadjibulla has been travelling in Southeast Asia and has some thoughts on what the new emerging world order looks like from that part of the world.
“I think the 21st century will be a Pacific century. Canada is a Pacific nation, and there are tremendous opportunities in Asia,” she said.
Nadjibulla says as Canada re-examines its markets and security partners it should not only look at Europe but at Asia too.
“When it comes to Southeast Asia, when it comes to India, when it comes to Japan, to Korea, to Taiwan … we need to engage in much, much more strategic partnerships,” Nadjibulla said. “There's a lot of dynamism in Asia. There's a lot of opportunity. And for us to be able to fully capture that, we have to invest in expert infrastructure.”
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