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Dissecting the foreign interference soap opera

David Johnston, the former independent special rapporteur on foreign interference, is pictured on the screens of translators as he presents his first report in Ottawa on Tuesday, May 23, 2023. File photo by The Canadian Press/Sean Kilpatrick

Over the last few months, Canadians have seen a steady drip of media reports about China’s possible influence over the 2019 and 2021 federal elections. Chinese officials have denied any interference, calling the allegations “baseless and defamatory.”

The accusations have prompted calls for a public inquiry. But instead in March, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau appointed former governor general David Johnston to review the findings of two closed-door panels that Ottawa set up to investigate Beijing's suspected interference activities.

Johnston’s report was released last month. It concluded that Chinese interference did not alter the outcomes of the 2019 and 2021 general elections. Rather than settle the issue, the results sparked more controversy. Opposition leaders alleged Johnston’s bias towards the prime minister, and calls for a public inquiry rang louder.

Then in a shocking turn of events, Johnston resigned on Friday.

On Episode 15 of Hot Politics, David McKie talks with security and intelligence reporter Jim Bronskill and former senior national security official Artur Wilczynski to sort out what’s next in this saga.

With David Johnston gone, what’s next for the foreign interference probe? Listen to Episode 15 of #HotPolitics for a full analysis of what Canadians can expect from the government going forward and how this impacts our democracy.

Bronskill explains that Dominic LeBlanc, the intergovernmental affairs minister, has asked the opposition parties to provide a plan forward to avoid another appearance of partisanship.

“But I think the government is setting the cat among the pigeons to some extent. As we know, these opposition parties rarely agree on anything,” he said.

Wilczynski called the treatment of the former governor general “political vandalism” but agreed a public inquiry is the way forward in order to restore public trust in Canada’s electoral system.

“After the number of months of the process that we've had, I think that public trust in our democratic institutions has further eroded at our own hands. It's Canadians that have done damage to that trust more so than some of the foreign actors that we want to examine,” he said.

Listen to Unravelling the Canada-China Interference Saga for a full analysis of how Canadians can expect the government to move this matter forward and the impact all this has on our democracy.

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